Below are highlights of their talk. For the full interview, read the transcript.
Jean asks Peter to discuss the concept of depth psychology.
Peter: You have to understand the meaning and impact of inner conflict. When you start to understand inner conflict, you'll see that, for instance, you might feel like you want to be a loving person and be loved by others, but at the same time, have a tendency to feel as if you're not loved or not really appreciated. And so, there's a conflict there.
Jean: What is the advantage to discovering your inner conflict?
Peter: You make it conscious. When we feel attacked or controlled or rejected, we’re bringing in our own feelings. We have to recognize our own participation, so we don’t get tangled up in those feelings. Being controlled in reality doesn’t mean you have to be triggered, or to remain silent and resentful. A lot of passive-aggressive behavior is a reaction to the feeling of being controlled.
Jean: What does it mean to represent yourself?
Peter: If you’re too passive you might remain silent and end up being resentful later. Then it bothers you that you were passive. You might also move into anger, which is also self-defeating. Maybe the boss really is a jerk. You have to figure out how to navigate that system.
Jean: You told us about your epiphany after finding the right therapist, the one who helped you find meaning in your life. Now you’re that kind of therapist. What does that feel like?
Peter: It’s wonderful work, but some therapists are triggered by the weight of their client’s passivity. It’s called countertransference, and the therapist has to clear it out of his or her system.
Jean: What’s your answer to the existence of objective reality? The ice caps really are melting, your boss really is a jerk.
Peter: Credit the reality, but take responsibility for your response.
Jean: Where does that passivity come from?
Peter: It comes from childhood. We were passive, depending on our parents for everything. Most people aren’t even aware of it as adults. The first objective reality is to connect with yourself. That’s where your strength will come from.
Jean: Then there’s the idea of being connected.
Peter: We want to be connected. That’s another polarity in life, connected vs disconnected.
Jean: With racial justice, we may not allow ourselves to feel good, because the people we care about aren’t feeling good. So instead we get angry.
Peter: Anger is a false way to try to feel strength. It's a desperate reaching out for strength, because anger can feel like strength. But it's really a third-rate kind of strength. And it's mostly a reaction to inner passivity. When we have too much inner passivity, we can be desperate for a feeling of strength. And sometimes the only strength we can feel is anger. It is the easiest sense of strength to access, but it's self-defeating. Anger poisons your own system
Jean: What does it mean to liberate ourselves from passivity?
Peter: We’re trying to liberate ourselves from negative emotions. We don’t have inner freedom because we get tangled up in this negativity.
Jean: So the antidote to the negativity is not to go positive, that would feel too unnatural, it is to achieve a balance.
Jean: Now tell us how to get in touch with your work.
Peter: Go to my website, which is WhyWeSuffer.com: Transformative Insights from Depth Psychology.
Psychotherapist Peter Michaelson is a former journalist and science writer who possesses a unique ability to render depth psychology into easily understood self-help information.
Peter spent the 1970s and early 1980s searching for answers to his own dissatisfaction and career setbacks. In 1985, he began doing weekly sessions with a psychotherapist who worked very deeply in the unconscious. In these sessions, he acquired the insight that resolved the inner conflicts that had been disrupting his life. In 1987, he obtained his Master’s degree in counseling from Antioch University in Ohio.
Since then, Peter has been using this unique psychotherapy with his own clients. He has now written eight books that discuss different aspects of this deep approach. These books examine the causes of low self-esteem, addictions, indecision, compulsions, loneliness, depression, failure, self-sabotage, and inner passivity. He lives in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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